IP-WARS.NET - a forward command post of the IP Wars
create account| Front Page|Mission|Standard Operating Procedures|Operating Instructions(aka FAQ's)|Privacy Policy|Site Stats/Info|Admin Actions|Search
Sections:General|IP|SCO v World |Microsoft|grok*/OSRM|IPW Site Meta|Logbooks|Diaries|Legal Documents|View All Articles
Display: Sort:
What license should this site use? | 16 comments
Re: What does it all mean (none / 1) (#6)
by ColonelZen (tzellers lieth within pobox of thy kingdom com) on Tue Nov 9th, 2004 at 21:25:25 EST
(User Info)
I'm not quite clear on the distinction on the share alike.   Yes the licensee can create a derivative (giving me credit) and change the license, so long as they use it non-commercially (at least for the nc license for which I voted and cite in articles).   But there is no possibility therefrom that a downstreamer could still use any substantial fraction of my work or words in a commercial product.  That would still be copyright infringement of my original work.

The only thing forced by the share-alike provision is that the downstreamer could be forced to use a cc license for his work, which realistically means nothing because he cannot grant additional rights to my work.  viz he could not grant commercial publishing rights to his work while it contained more than fair use excerpts from my material.  He cannot break my cc grants in any significant way that I can see, and I have ethical qualms about trying to force others to my values regarding their works independent of me.

There is a huge difference between code (at least that which is compiled) and text.  In textual literary matter the meaning and value is only in and as text.  In code the binary derivative work is useful (at least on approprate architectures) in and of itself, hence the derivative works provisions of the GPL.  I don't see substantial value for that in textual matter.

As for non-commercial, that means what it says; it does not preclude the author from selling any (non-exclusive) commercial rights_ if someone wants to reproduce other than in a cc/nc manner they need to contact the author to buy those rights.

In q quick glance through of the CC site I didn't see much about a commercial variation.  Do you have a link, or could you explain it a little more?

-- TWZ

[ Parent ]

  • Re: What does it all mean by heimdal31, 11/09/2004 23:31:20 EST (none / 0)
    • Re: What does it all mean by ColonelZen, 11/10/2004 01:46:44 EST (none / 0)

What license should this site use? | 16 comments
Display: Sort:

Links

Firefox 2

Use OpenOffice.org

Add to Technorati Favorites

Join EFF Today

ToTehMoon web site button

~ Merkey v The Internet et al Docs
~ Yahoeuvre
~ tuxrocks.com (SCO cases legal docs)
~ scofacts.org
~ eagle.petrofsky.org
~ Zen's Den
~ Yahoo SCOX Message Board
~ Lamlaw
~ Microsoft Watch
~ Groklaw
~ Korgwal - a Groklaw mirror
~ nosoftwarepatents.com
~ Flame Warriors
~ SCOXE Wars
~ Get your Merkey Number here!
~ Digital Law Online

Recent Comments

Breaking News and External Article Comments
General News – General Articles
by ColonelZen, January 5
59 comments
» TSG announces $100 million cash... – sphealey, Feb 14
» SCO Lifeboat List from Stats_for_all – AncientBrit, May 6
» Not a single comment on the Novell... – sphealey, Jul 22

Eagle Loses Appeals
General News – General Articles
by JCausey, December 15
1 comment
» Re: Eagle Loses Appeals – br3n, Jan 7

The Chinese Room Revisited, Thoughts on...
General News – Diary
by ColonelZen, November 24
1 comment
» Re: The Chinese Room Revisited,... – ColonelZen, Nov 24

How to Transition a Windows Shop to Linux
General News – General Articles
by JCausey, November 21
3 comments
» Re: How to Transition a Windows Shop to... – ColonelZen, Nov 22
» Re: How to Transition a Windows Shop to... – JCausey, Nov 23
» Re: How to Transition a Windows Shop to... – ColonelZen, Nov 23

Advocacy
General News – Diary
by br3n, October 29
3 comments
» Re: Advocacy – br3n, Nov 2
» Re: Advocacy – ColonelZen, Nov 2
» Re: Advocacy – br3n, Nov 4

Very Bad News for Darl and Ralph
SCO v The World – Diary
by ColonelZen, October 13
7 comments
» Re: OT advocacy – br3n, Oct 26
» Re: OT advocacy – JCausey, Oct 28
» Re: OT advocacy – br3n, Oct 29

Some SCOX Financial Analysis
SCO v The World – SCO Related Articles
by JCausey, September 21
13 comments
» Re: Some SCOX Financial Analysis – br3n, Oct 3
» Re: Some SCOX Financial Analysis – ColonelZen, Oct 3
» Re: Some SCOX Financial Analysis – br3n, Oct 6

Open Source in Education - Opening Doors
General News – General Articles
by JCausey, September 28
1 comment
» Re: Open Source in Education - Opening... – br3n, Sep 29

An IPOWER ful experience
General News – Diary
by ColonelZen, September 25
6 comments
» IPOWER SysAdmin Doesn't Do Weekends!! – ColonelZen, Sep 29
» Re: An IPOWER ful experience – ColonelZen, Sep 29
» Re: An IPOWER ful experience – ColonelZen, Sep 29

Learning C#
Microsoft – Diary
by ColonelZen, September 23
1 comment
» Re: Learning C# – ColonelZen, Sep 23

Comment search...

Recent Diaries

SCO has a Potential and Credible BILLION Dollar Liability
by ColonelZen - March 15

The Chinese Room Revisited, Thoughts on Consciousness
by ColonelZen - November 24
1 comment


Advocacy
by br3n - October 29
3 comments


An IPOWER ful experience
by ColonelZen - September 25
6 comments


Learning C#
by ColonelZen - September 23
1 comment


Getting ruby DBI for Mysql and Postgresql working on FC 6
by ColonelZen - March 7

Declaration of Linus Torvalds
by nedu - February 13
1 comment


Declaration of M. Douglas McIlroy
by nedu - February 12
6 comments


Declaration of Ulrich Drepper
by nedu - February 11
1 comment


Declaration of K. Y. Srinivasan
by nedu - February 11


More Diaries...

Login

Make a new account

Username:
Password:

SourceForge Logo Powered by Scoop

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective companies or owners.
Comments, articles and logbooks are owned by the Poster. By posting on the ip-wars.net web site, all posters grant a license to ip-wars.net to publish the content and release it pursuant to the Creative Commons License that covers the rest of the site. For more details, please check out the Standard Operating Procedures. Also, please read the Privacy Policy for the site. Finally, DO NOT send e-mail to the site owner (Jeff Causey) unless you have read and agree to the terms regarding e-mail included in the Standard Operating Procedures.
Everything else © 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 ip-wars.net and Jeffrey G. Causey and is licensed under a
Creative Commons License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License.